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out today, still no rally for stocks. is it really still all about the fiscal cliff for investors right now? let's talk about that in our clo"closing bell" exchange. steve liesman will have breaking news momentarily. steve, do you have that? >> yes, i do. what we have is a report from the new york fed on consumer finance. what the news shows is that overall, consumer credit outside of real estate is up just a bit. most of that, by the way, is student loan debt, being up about $42 billion inside that $2.7 trillion number. overall, mortgage debt is down and overall debt is down. the basic gist of the details, bill, is that consumer credit continues to decline overall. delinquencies are down and bankruptcies are down. balance sheet repair continues. a little bit more willingness of the consumer to take on some debt and a lot of it -- >> that's very interesting, steve. let me ask you something, david. >> i want to make one more point, which is that when you talk about how much the dow is down today, it should be down more because the rally we didn't have from the better economic news
the late-day selloff? most on the street blaming these words out of washington about fiscal cliff. >> there's been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. they've talked some happy talk about doing revenues, but we only have a couple weeks to get something done. so we have to get away from the happy talk and start talking about specific things. >> as we head into the fiscal cliff negotiations, my advice to the president would be seems like our friends on the other side are having some difficulty turning off the campaign. we need to sit down and work this matter out. >> behind closed doors. even with the fiscal cliff looming over the markets, our own jeff cox with cnbc.com says there's a growing bit of optimism about the outlook for next year. take a look at some of the predictions from some of the street's biggest names regarding the s&p 500 for next year. it's quite a chapg for morgan stanley, by the way, whose 2012 forecast was for the s&p to close at 1167 on december 31 of this year. >> wow. they're expecting a mega rally next year. >> he hates having to co
. >>> welcome to "the closing bell." we're at the new york stock exchange. it's as the fiscal cliff turns here on wall street yet again. we're less than an hour away from completing what could wind up being a dramatic comeback on wall street. >> it is feeling like a soap opera. i'm michelle caruso-cabrera. maria bartiromo will be back tomorrow. the dow had been down more than 100 points earlier in the session but came storming back after encouraging fiscal cliff talk from washington. listen. >> it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. but i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> wow. that's optimism. there you go. right now the dow jones industrial average is higher by 72 points. 12,950. the nasdaq is also in positive territory by about 11 points. the s&p 500, and you can see the same intraday pattern all three sessions,
the crisis over, yes, the fiscal cliff. and origin tina's rating is slashed over five notches. we'll speak to a bondholder who once represented the country's creditors. >> you're watching "worldwide exchange," bringing you business news from around the globe. >>> as we get into the trading session here in europe, you can see behind me decliners outpacing advancers by about a 4-1 ratio, with stocks shedding about a third of a percent. we'll get to more of that shortly. first take a look at the forces individually to get a sense of where we're seeing the selling pressure and it is pretty much consistent. there's the ibex 35 down .7 of a percent. the ftse down about a third of a percent. not many green spots to find. yesterday we saw that rally in peripheral debt. today we're actually seeing firmer prices across the board, so whether the u.s. down there or italy and spain here in the periphery, 4.7%, 6%, remarkable there, level for spain even today as the country's banks are being more fully examined in light of the national examination plans. the dollar/yen pulling back about half a percent
reserve chairman ben bernanke warns congress to avoid the fiscal cliff, saying even the federal reserve doesn't have the tools to deal with the consequences. >> tom: i'm tom hudson. this man has many lawmakers pledging never to vote for higher taxes. find out what grover norquist thinks will happen with the fiscal cliff. >> susie: and hewlett packard stuns investors with news of an $9 billion mistake. >> tom: that and more tonight on nbr! >> susie: federal reserve chairman ben bernanke came to new york city today to send a tough message back to washington-- get your act together. he urged lawmakers and the white house to reach a quick deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, saying it might mean next year could be "a very good one for the economy." ben bernanke didn't endorse any specific tax or spending policies to solve the fiscal cliff, but he urged lawmakers to think creatively. he said an agreement on ways to reduce long-term federal budget deficits could remove road blocks to growth. on the other hand, going over the cliff might mean a recession. on top of that, worries about a deal were a
. then is the looming fiscal cliff casting a shadow over shoppers and investors this holiday season? visions of bargains are dancing in the heads of consumers. will the possibility of higher attackses slow them down. we'll talk with matthew shay, president of the national retail federation and john sweeney of fidelity investments. the holiday is over for white house and congressional leaders trying to make a deal. we'll ask our sunday panel if they can reach a compromise. >>> a thanksgiving tradition, our power player of the week has me dancing with turkeys, all right now on "fox news sunday." >> chris: hello again from fox news in washington. on this holiday weekend we're watching several major foreign policy developments from egypt to gaza to the continuing converse over the benghazi attack. to talk about it all is senator john mccain. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you. dancing with turkeys? >> chris: you'll have to wait until the end of the show to see. >> that's what we're doing now. >> chris: let's start with egypt where president morsi granted himself unchecked powers and sent thousa
, welcome to "squawk on the street" i'm carl cramer is off today. some word the fiscal cliff negotiations are not getting off to a good start. moderate red arrows. european leaders failed to reach a bailout payment to greece and will try monday. road map starts on the busiest travel day of the year. there are signs it could be a big quarter for airline and travel, but traditional toys look weak. walmart may have protesters outside its doors on friday. >> deer misses earnings, and the market shrugs it off. >> turmoil in israel with a bomb explosion on board a bus today and a rumored cease-fire that never happened. crude is up $1 as the secretary of state has arrived in cairo. a big day full of planes, trains and automobiles with tens of millions of americans set to embark on their holiday weekend journeys. our phil lebeau is in chicago with more on the holiday travel landscape. how painful is it going to be? >> you know, carl f you're traveling, you always need a little more patience thanksgiving weekend. for the airlines, they're keeping their fingers crossed because if you look at a map
a dark fiscal cliff. a new government report warning is an increase in texa taxes wod crush the middle-class spending. the dow down 70 points. it seems republicans are changing their tune on taxes. i don't know. lou dobbs with us as more congressional leaders break from the antitax pledge. and two years after the signs in cairo they look the same. mohamed morsi moves for absolute power sparking violent clashes in the streets between his supporters and opponents. but first, it is time to check stocks as would every 15 minutes, let's head to the floor of the new york stock exchange. nicole, the market is down and out on the fiscal cliff. i'm afraid. nicole: there's a lot going on on wall street. selling across the board, down 72-point at the lowest .12900, so about 40 points off of the earlier lows, however we are seeing selling from sector to sector with its banks or drugs or retail. the areas that have been pretty good our technology, semi conductors holding on, utilities giving it a go after selling off on concerns of the fiscal cliff of his utilities is a group that paid h
to the president's chief economic adviser about the fiscal cliff negotiations as second hour of the "closing bell" gets under way right now. >>> welcome to "closing bell." bill griffeth rejoins us in a moment. no follow-through rally. stocks closing in the red on fiscal cliff fears. dow jones lower by 43 points, 12,966. nasdaq finishes higher by nearly 10, 2,976. and the s&p down almost 3%, 1406. >> the deadline for the fiscal cliff is nearly one month away. if we go over that cliff, russ says some investors are not prepared for that decline. >> he joins us now a long with michael, cnbc contributor for destination wealth management and mary thompson joins us as well. russ, you're saying it's not priced in at this point. what should we be worried about? >> it's not priced in. it's very hard to find much evidence, either from investors or the sell side that people really expect to go over the fiscal cliff. i think what that means is if we get into the end of the year and looks like negotiations are not going forward, we may not solve this before 2013, we're likely to see rise in volatility, likely
over the fiscal cliff? the democrats, 202-585-3880. republicans, 202-585-3881. independents and all others, 2.202-585-388 yesterday at the daily news conference of the white house, jay carney the spokesman there was asked about liberals who are advocating going off the so- called fiscal cliff. here is what he had to say. [video clip] >> he spoke with john boehner. by the weekend and he will meet with them at the appropriate time as well as nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell. so the process that he began is continuing. recanting you to be optimistic that a balanced approach is achievable. we know what the solutions are. it was senator who said that in an op-ed, one benefit of all of the debate said we have had any discussions over the past couple of years is that we know what the parameters of a balanced solution for these challenges look like. and they include both spending cuts and revenues and entitlement reform. they have to have -- all three legs of the school of got to report of that. >> jay carney at the white house. was asked about the idea of going off the fiscal cliff. alan k
less conversation and more on the fiscal cliff. that is my "2 cents more," and that's it for tonight. thank you for joining us. have a great night. we'll see you here tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. more than 200-point swing in the stock market today, but at the end of the days of volatile session the dow jones industrial had a triple digits gain. anxious investors worldwide, however, have been selling stock on concerns about the impending peril of the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama for his part seems utterly unimpressed by market volatility and the consequences of failure to resolve the issues of tax hikes and spending cuts that go into affect the first of the year. as the markets were falling in the first hour of trading this morning, house speaker john maynard stood up and offered support to investors and leaders for the market. stocks stabilized and then began climbing on the speaker's expression of optimism that a deal is within reach. we will take all of that up and more here tonight with bedford open geyser ceo harvey eisen and republicans who have put tax
investors are trying to hang onto when there's not much to look at. cheryl: we have more fiscal cliff discussions picking the next week. we really have not a lot of days to get that fiscal cliff situation figured out. how nervous are you? taking it to the final trading day of the year which is entirely possible? we are talking about washington. >> i don't think anybody will blink yet in washington. another month left will stretch us out as long as possible. when we come here is a day-by-day market. one day everyone is buying into amanda knox data could be a headline out of washington where everyone is trying to get out real quick. too many uncertainties heading into the year or the first quarter next year so investors will look at this as a day-by-day trade but we can't forget the other factors out there. the fiscal cliff, we will get our normal calendar of economic data and still get headlines out of europe. still lot of things will move the market. i traditionally think we see a run up toward the end of the year. cheryl: a lot of traders bring their families on the floor of the stoc
or another, that's about all i hear on this fiscal cliff business, and you know what? what about spending cuts which is the true source of the deficit problem along with anemic economic growth. and here's one. we just got confirmation that the latest fiscal numbers from the treasury department show the federal government ran up more red ink in october than it did the year before, and guess what? spending went up double digits from the year before. what a surprise. but the white house got one thing right today. it released a study showing that a massive year-end tax hike would kill consumer spending by $200 billion, right. so let's not raise taxes. and in addition to all of this, the joint chiefs of staff is apparently drawing up plans to keep 10,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan past the 2014 deadline. this break a president obama promise, but some promises are made to be broken, and i think this is probably a good move. but first up congress back at work tonight after the holiday recess with now just 35 days to go. are we any closer to a tax and fiscal cliff fix? cnbc's own chief washington
. the money they're paying out to shareholders ahead of the fiscal cliff wall to get the dividend ahead of the higher tax rate, so costco joins many come over 100 companies that have done much of the same. paying out dividends so you can pay less taxes. melissa: thank you so much. lori: so thoughtful of the company. president obama invited middle-class americans to the white house to showcase those would be most affected a certain tax cuts are not extended. peter barnes live at the white house. >> 85 middle-class taxpayers joining the president at this event part of a pr push to drive them to extend tax cuts for middle-class taxpayers let them expire for wealthier taxpayers. take a listen. >> optimistically i don't think we will get it done tomorrow. but if everybody here goes out of their way to make their voices heard and spread the word to your friends and families and coworkers and neighbors, i am thoughtfudoubtful that we will t done. >> the president meeting with 14 ceos, second such meeting in the last two weeks including the ceos of yahoo, merck, coca-cola and at&t. and lloyd gl
tomorrow. a reversal of fortune on wall street as stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. here's how we finished the day on wall street, near the highs. up 105 points. 12,983. we'll have technicians looking at this day, seeing if it's a key reversal. the s&p also in positive territory. market driven by headlines and bluster out of washington. yep, that's what investors should expect short term. maybe until january 1st. should they also expect a rally any time soon? according to ryan dieterich, rally could most definitely be headed our way. >> he joins us now to explain along with peter anderson from congress asset management company. bill mcvail from turner investment partners and our very own rick santelli. peter, i have to begin with you. with a name like congress asset management, is congress going to come through for your assets? >> well, i wish i had an inside scoop on that, but unfortunately, we're also left to speculate at this point. but i will say this. what's incredible about this market is the way the market moved up today, it's an instan
. with all these variables, elections, mideast, fiscal cliff, it seems as though there's only so much flight to safety bid you can push into the marketplace. some traders say that's why you didn't notice. in the old days, it would make a difference. yields are already most accommodative from a nervousness standpoint. i will tell you it was the number one conversation. and even though it really isn't about oil, that's the market everybody is trading to of course kind of play the headlines. >> michael, how about you? how does this impact the way you're allocating capital? >> well, as you know, our strategy is about 45% in cash while the prefunctory -- what we'll have left to boost us higher. i think the market does go higher. here's why. you have $85 billion each month from the federal reserve as far as balance sheet expansion. you have negative real interest rates that will be getting even more negative. i expect inflation to take off significantly early in 2013. >> but if you're sitting on 45% cash, that says to me you're still expecting more downside here. don't you think we've already seen
the fiscal cliff remains a distinct possibility come january 1st, keeping some buyers on the side lines as well. that's what you see here. coming up, governors can't afford to stall. they have to balance their budget. day two of our governors on the edge, our series on how individual states are dealing with the budget mess. it is a fox business exclusive. delaware governor has some ideas. you have to hear what he has to say. the nasdaq, trying to tune out all the noise. if the nasdaq can turn it around and post positive gains here by the close, it will be the seventh straight day of gains, the longest winning streak in 16 months, seven days in a row, and yes, i know, positive gains is redundant. just seeing if you're paying attention. you know what? somebody is always making money. don't ever let the markets fool you. if something is down, somebody else is making money on the other side. let's find out from our traders at the new york stock exchange, cme group and the nymex for our floor show. teddy weisberg, who is making money today? >> it is a market of stocks, not a stock market. yo
trail to talk about his solution for the fiscal cliff. nothing is getting done in washington. >> what is rich's the $230,000 for a tough pill to swallow for new tax hikes. so now it will buy even make dead-end. what does lou dobbs think? melissa: corporate america racing to get ahead of the cliff with wall street funds to help your wallet. melissa: time for stocks ahead to the floor of the new york stock exchange with nicole petallides confidence hitting the post recession peak but traders are not buying it? >> >> of its numbers result of the market moved higher the dow moving into the green but now was sells off continuing the trend. we're doing much of the same we're under pressure with dow jones industrial average but also of the nasdaq has some of perot's. the confidence numbers of the highest levels since february 2008 also case-schiller shows the total order for durable goods is unchanged. we have a deal on wall street and some upgrades so there are bits and pieces and many are rushing to get ahead of the fiscal cliff. lori: with the potential tax increase with dividends compani
to talk about whether the fiscal cliff has had any impant on this business, and of course we'll talk about that relationship with sears. back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> is all that spending translating into green for investors? let's collection in with kayla tausche with a "market flash." >> interestingly enough, the retail sector is falling today in the red for most of the big retailers that had those discounts. also was not the big winner even on friday techwise. so the wig question is how much will these discounts actually eat into the potential margins from those blowout sales. if you look, courtney said that department stores were the biggest destination but macy's and nordstrom are two of the biggest laggards on the s&p. costco which had heavily discounted things like the nexus 7, also down today. >>> to congress now which is returning to deal with the biggest economic issue of the day -- that fiscal cliff. john harwood on whether lawmakers are getting any closer to a deal. >>> and coming up on closing bell, pet smart's ceo robert moran will join us live to discuss how his c
.s. as a source of uncertainty for the market as well. we're just 35 days away from the fiscal cliff. january 1st more than 600 billion dollars in both cuts and tax hikes, spending cuts kicking in and it will affect the state you live in in some way shape or form. today we're kicking off governors on the edge week on countdown to the closing bell. we are finding out how pennsylvania is affected by the budget mess. governor corbett is talking about the impact on state finances but perhaps more importantly why he is not waiting around and he and his team are trying to work on make sure they don't fall into the abyss with the rest of the country. >>> now hewlett-packard is now up 2 1/4%. we just heard through reuters we're confirming it here on fox business that a class-action lawsuit has been filed against hewlett-packard, a law firm -- we're looking at this issue with autonomy, it's a company they had to write down the acquisition by billions and billions of dollars. so clearly this is the breaking news on hewlett-packard right now. not really moving that much. still up about 28 cents. apple as yo
the debt problems in europe and the fiscal cliff crisis here in the u.s. stocks fell late today after senate majority leader harry reid said lawmakers are making little progress in resolving the stand-off over tax increases and spending cuts. the dow fell 89 points, the nasdaq lost nine, the s&p 500 down seven. >> tom: as susie mentioned, talks to resolve the fiscal cliff are moving slowly. one reason is that there is deep disagreement over whether entitlement programs like social security and medicare should be on the table right now or not, and the disagreement is sharpest over social security. darren gersh takes a look at why. >> reporter: the number-two man in the senate democratic leadership argues any fix for social security's finances should come after the immediate challenge is out of the way. >> i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff and deficit discussion, but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. >> reporter: republicans pushed back, arguing social security is part of the deficit problem because it is n
storm, of the dangers of going over the so-called fiscal cliff, the one washington created. it seems with the noise of the campaign behind us, washington is listening, which means that after several months of harping on the dangers that you face, i am ready to make a big switch to telling you about the opportunities that lie ahead. i'm ali velshi and this is "your money." look, the clet of tthreat of th cliff remains real. i will not drop this subject until it's settled. but there is life after washington-induced catastrophe, and frankly, it looks like a pretty good life. if all goes according to plan, 2013 could be a big turnaround year for the u.s. the start of a recovery that feels real. most of it will have very little to do with washington policy, though your state and federal government will have to step in to make it happen. let me explain. first, there is an energy boom under way in the united states right now. fueled by the joint forces of hydraulic fracturing or fracking of natural gas out of shale and buy mo by more drilling for oil. natural gas is increasingly cheap and a
one full percentage point. road map for the morning starts off with the fiscal cliff. the president meeting with more ceos today bringing his plan straight to the people culminating in an appearance in a factory later this week. >> costco joins the dividend parting initiating a $7 a share payout on top of the regular dividend. >> and a shake-up at groupon. the board may be considering co-founder being released. >> there's powerball fever. 500 million big ones in the pot. how would you spend the money and how does the fiscal cliff factor in? we'll talk strategy with a former lottery winner. >> we begin with the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama is scheduled to meet with several business leaders including ceos of home depot, macy's, caterpillar and at&t but futures are falling with signs there are troubles with negotiations on capitol hill. a market credible deal to solve the cliff is key to economic growth. >> that annual growth idea, that prospect is real in my view if we actually did get a market credible $4 trillion plan. the markets would realize those guys can govern.
a forecast for cyber monday sales. we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but first over to andrew. >>> finance ministers are trying to unfreeze the second bailout package for greece, but first they must agree on how to cut massive debt to a more sustainable level. we'll head to london for details on that. and playing down a deal talk, tom joyce saying his country's currently if talks with at least two firms on a possible sale of its largest business unit. but would only pursue a deal if it created value to shareholders and clients. and mexico's anti-corruption body says it has found no irregularities in its probe of permits given to walmart. two audits still un
of the main drivers behind recent stock moves is the uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. but buckle up, our next two guests say the action could soon get even more interesting. and later today, thousands are going to gather in manhattan's rockefeller center for the lighting of the christmas tree, making any visit to manhattan from here on out basically impossible at night. the annual spectacle has become a world famous symbol of the holidays. i went last night and it was okay. >> i went two nights ago. >> from now on -- >> i couldn't believe two nights ago, there was no traffic. >> it's over now. over. >> this year's tree came from flanders after surviving the strong winds of hurricane sandy. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investm
this one to sell his plan for dealing with the fiscal cliff, we will hear from the president at the white house this hour. connell: and the powerball lotterr everybody is talking about is creating a frenzy, but we have a reality check today with another big story we have been following. it would run the government for an hour and 15 minutes. dagen: and it would last me for half a year. charlie gasparino on the future of the firm and the leader. connell: we start things off with nicole petallides. stocks nowwevery 15 minutes. dagen: good morning. nicole: good morning. we are certainly embedded that3 story. but i wanted to take a look at the broader market. you see they are improving some. pertaining to the fiscal cliff, it really is a market moving event. you have john boehner talking but he is optimistic a deal can be reached. this comes on the heels of yesterday when you had harry reid expressing caution about the fact things ar were nt going that well. we are seeing the market to the downside, they have improved and you can see it spiked up. alaska mitra said to them. dagen
on the fiscal cliff next year and i see the housing market getting better around better and i think that's a positive. >> rick santelli, it wasn't just stocks rallying today. here in the u.s., europe had its best week of the year this week. the euro is at a three-week high. gold was very strong today. what's the market telling us right now? >> i think the market's telling us that there's a lot of bargain hunting and a lot of optimism towards europe. that made sense. i think that the issues of europe are far from cured. i don't think they can be cured. but i do think there's going to be large time gaps where investors hit the gas because the bureaucrats aren't necessarily hitting the brake. whether it's cyprus seems to be an issue. but it's strong. greece really isn't a huge issue but it really does represent kind of how the thinking goes for larger issues that europe has defaced. i found it fascinating, the dollar index closed down over a penny, even though had a strong gain on the week on the yen. it just goes to show you how that euro is so powerful this week and how in the last couple
cliff. the markets were kind of a honeymoon today. where the traders not concerned about the fiscal cliff? what went on? >> the fiscal cliff was so widely expected is becoming a non-event at this point. the market managed to eke out a gain today. the european issue is also something on the traders minds. the emergency meeting monday, we have to resolve issue with grief that will be firs first and fort on their minds into next week. david: they're never going to resolve that issue. it will never, ever happen. i don't think they will resolve it. you bring up a great point because if worst-cas worst caseo we go over the fiscal cliff and all of those tax changes expire, we will see a tripling of the dividend tax. if that happens, so many people invested right now, you said some of them might change from issuing dividends to buying back their stocks, right? >> that will be the tax efficient way people will return money, cash to shareholders. taxes on dividends are likely to go up, so that could be more efficient place. a dividend issue we have talked about before overplayed maybe an over
that could exist between europe and the u.s.? it seems like the u.s. has to deal with the fiscal cliff and there is not much room for mutual influence. if you don't have your house in order, you cannot speak to our problems. this does not covered in our media very much. >> thank you. let's go to illinois. we have the votes from the judges. >> can you guys hear me? what can parliament do to encourage [indiscernible] >> thank you. we will go right to the answers. >> you the unemployment, i spent a long time in entering what could we do to regain trust and growth. i made a proposal, and i repeat it. the european union, together with the states in which the youth unemployment is so crop -- so great, we should support those enterprises who employ young people with direct support financially for the enterprise, or with privilege and taxes. those are the two possibilities, but we should do it. the fight against unemployment, in my eyes, is the highest priority for the european union, or must be the highest priority for the european union. the international labor organization spoke about the l
and into year end. >> well, you have the fiscal cliff. you have the political class. they have to work out some of these budget issues, but sort of beyond the near term, maria, i think they're two underpinnings that are supporting the market. they were in place preelection. hopefully you sort of get through some of these political negotiations. you get back to some of the better underlying fundamental news and some of this volatility starts to dissipate and we start to turn higher. >> rick, you agree with that in terms of the catalyst for this market? you think we get a deal done by year end? >> i don't. i don't. i don't agree with much of what's out there. i think we can get the framework for a grand bargain before the end of the year, but i think that's 50/50. and many analysts, economists, and politicos don't believe there's grand bargains in the cards at all. i do. i think there's so many issues with congress out that i think are going to come to the table to make both sides have a pretty good handle over the other. i think debt ceiling is a big deal. i think that mr. boehner has talked abo
into the debt market, and steven hammers says the fiscal cliff is y2k all over again. i want to start with stephen, because he's been looking at green mountain for a long time, but is it too hot to handle? even though it is popping after hours as a result of these earnings, it is a very hot stock to hold, is it not? >> the stocks do have consistent earnings, otherwise we wouldn't have it. but because we weight securities based on the risk, we call rise the risk. green mountain coffee has the lowest exposure to our large cap fund which is only a .03% exposure. so we don't have much of green mountain coffee. but it is consistent earnings. liz: okay. you know, the trade action of the day, larry, it looked pretty ugly today, but there were some pretty good winners. nonetheless, i like how you put this. you said there are nuisance headlines coming through, and a couple came in the form of, in essence, i guess coming out of d.c. that the talks have stalled as it pertains to the fiscal cliff. does that just cause the markets to dive? >> yeah, i think so. i mean, i'm actually -- i feel like i
the fiscal cliff is or what it means for their paycheck. >> they aren't worried. we'll see how numbers pan out. should be a big shopping weekend for the retailers. cyber-monday is around the corner. this is a big three days. it's funny. cyber-monday first came about when people didn't have high-speed internet. they would have to go to work and shop because it wasn't common. now it's common to have high-speed internet access at home and still you have cyber-monday. >> just as a point of note here, street signs are not allowed to say cyber-monday. i don't believe it. it's five bucks in the beer jar. you already owe 15 bucks. >> it's not "street signs." >> we play by a different set of rules here at post 9. >> we play by melissa's rules here at post 9. >> yours too, david. >> mine too. absolutely. we will be watching any number of retailers in terms of stocks. we'll see how some of the laggers do today. jcpenney. we'll be talking to the chief merchandise officer at sears later in the program. interesting to see given how poor the report was there. >> don't we have the former ceo of jcpenney o
investors no favors real acquainting them instead with the scary parts of the fiscal cliff story. the federal reserve chairman spooking investors saying that the bank would not have infinite ability to address the fallout from the failure to avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrial today losing seven points, s&p, nasdaq up fractionally. president obama returned to the white house after a three day trip to -- through southeast asia with stops in cambodia, thailand, and burma. the president takes part in a yearly presidential tradition. the parting of the national thanksgiving turkey in the rose garden. the prime minister of israel reiterating tonight that the cease-fire deal has been reached he told reporters that israel will take whatever action is necessary to defend its people but stated a diplomatic resolution would be preferred. joining as, fox is national-security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. let me turn to you first. is it your sense that a deal has been reached between hamas and israel? >> because israel has accomplished th
a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed to selling. the board composition changed. you have had activist shareholder get on there. that was very
is pulled back. dagen: thank you. if congress is unable to prevent the fiscal cliff, our lawmakers could send the entire world economy into a recession. steve moore is here, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal." he joins us now from washington, d.c. will they prevent it, steve? >> the good news is, no one should ever listen to what they say. but, you know, these go sheesh and keep rolling on. my sources on capitol hill say that there is still a lot of gridlock there. the main thing, in my opinion, can they reach a deal on these taxes that does not require all of the requirements of business to go up? dagen: do think that happened, because again, there are so many taxes that we need to worry about, the lawmakers never fixed it for 2012. if they do not fix that, it will hit 33 million americans. the payroll tax cut. will that go away, because, again, it was temporary ones, temporary twice and it will still be a higher tax. >> im so glad you brought up the amt. nobody has really been focusing on this. that would be bigger than even extending the bush tax cuts. you are talkin
the fiscal cliff, that once again put pressure on the markets. that's when things turned down yesterday. you'll see in europe, barely budging at this point. in france, the cac is up by about a point. the ftse is down by less than five points. in germany, the dax is up by less than three points. overnight in asia, you'll see that in japan, the nikkei was up by about .8 of a percent. the shanghai composite up by about 1%. the hang seng was up by 1.4%. oil prices also up slightly, up about 72 cents. not near the higher levels that we had seen because of the concerns in the middle east. 84.7 is where wti stands. the ten-year note is yielding 1.661%. we do have those numbers coming out. the dollar sup across the board. euro is at 1.28. gold prices this morning are indicated up just barely up by about $2.60. >>> let's go across the pond. ross westgate is standing by for us in london. ross, good morning to you. >> good morning, andrew. good to see you ahead of thanksgiving. becky called it. we're pretty flat here in europe. the dow jones being outpaced a little bit more. as you say, the focus very
is that we get a fix for the fiscal cliff maybe early january, maybe we go over the cliff for a couple days. and i think the political pressure then to fix it would be intense because of the amt shock. normally 4.5 million pay pay alternative minimum taxes. if we didn't fix this on the 2012 income, what's due in 2013 will be additional taxes of several thousand dollars by an extra 28 million households. 33 million instead of 4.5 million on 2012 taxes. if you're going to file your tax return in january and you expect a refind, if you're in the 75,000 to 300,000 income bracket, forget about it if they don't fix that amt. so i think senators will get calls from a good portion of 28 billion households saying what are you doing raising my taxes. i never withheld. are you going to penalize me because you didn't fix what you fix every year? i think that amt shock is going to drive -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will drive a very, very fast fix. but then we'll just have a small bargain later this year. there's not going to be a grand war bargain. >> that could be the worst case scenario is j
in congress in the next month and a half. everybody wants to talk about the fiscal cliff, some talk about austerity, bomb, others talk about what needs to be done to lift the debt limit. and all of these issues are before us. tax increases are not. but underlying all of that, foundational to all of that, is putting america back to work. getting americans back into their jobs. if we do that we will clearly increase employment and when you increase employment you always increase tax revenue to the federal government, to state governments and local governments. so our principle task as i see it and i think i'm joined by many of my colleagues, both democratic and republican, is to get the american economy going. to put it back in gear. and there are many reasons beyond just employment and the opportunities that family have -- families have to make it. one of the critical elements in all of this is to protect americans. we recently saw superstorm san joaquin smash into -- sandy smash into new jersey and new york with devastating results. loss of life, incredible loss of property, both public a
house speaker john boehner and harry reid this weekend for avoid efforts on fiscal cliff. on wednesday president obama will seek more input from top ceos, including gold man's lloyd blankfein and caterpillar's doug owner hill man. a number will travel to washington to try to reach a deficit cutting deal as part of the fix the debt campaign. so all things fiscal cliff still pre-dominate. we have a time clock that's quickly running out. how important is it that we get an agreement before the end of the year? >> this is like the debt ceiling argument. people got into a panic. that's something we even imposed on ourselves to decide that the debt shouldn't go too high. so it's not a bad thing. same with the fiscal cliff. what are we saying with the fiscal cliff? we're saying the economy might be revealed to be what it's actually doing because we'll take away the artificial supports because we think it's held any enough now to maybe after itself. that might entail a step drop because at the moment we're giving these tax breaks, but we're doing it out of our saving. >> but the point isn't jus
of these folks are saying if we get a compromise as far as the fiscal cliff, by the end of the year this event means higher oil and gas prices, so there is a lot of indecision down here on the floor, but a volatile market with the middle east playing out. melissa: thank you so much. just in time for black friday, to survey highlights what we can expect consumers to spend this holiday season. rich edson has the story. >> americans will spend a little bit more this year, a just-released survey of holiday shopping says. the credit union national association of consumer federation of america said retail can expect a better holiday than last year, though not much better. >> our basic result is more optimistic than last year, the strongest results in the last four years, however still does not suggest a booming holiday season, but a continued improvement from the last few years. speak of a state college spending to increase from three and a half to 4% over 2011. the numbers behind that, they will spend less than last year. analysts say plenty of shoppers say they will spend less and never do. 12% ad
advisors joining us to talk about the fiscal cliff and whether we will go over it. liz: do not miss it. but first what drove the market with today's data download. the nasdaq the only major index. still a pretty rough day on light volume. the dow and s&p ending lower the s&p ending lower with isn't a step in the longest winning streak in more than three months. tech and utilities were the top performing sectors while telecom and energy lag behind. we were talking about natural gas prices tumbling 4% today on warmer weather. forecasters warning of a warm start, but still expected to be much colder than last year. a lot of people betting it would be $4 at this point, if not. factory activity among the manufacturers falling back into contraction this month on bigger than expected drop as the federal reserve said activity index fell three points negative 2.8. the first of five regional reports covering an area that is not affected by hurricane sandy so you can only imagine how it would be in new york. david: will be talking with scott bauer in the pit of the cme. duking it out in our stree
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